Secretary of Defense (Public Affairs) Victoria Clarke
Lee Evey, manager, Pentagon Renovation Program
October 2, 2001
QUESTION: The Pakistani president yesterday was talking about a strike on Afghan
targets as "inevitable". Was he speaking -- was he stating the obvious,
or was he giving information that you would rather have been not have given?
CLARKE: You have to ask him.
Again, we're going to -- it is so sensitive and so clearly so sensitive that
we cannot be in the business of -- I mean, we don't do it as a normal course
of business around here. We certainly now can't be characterizing for other
countries what they may or may not do or what their views may or may not be.
The response has been very good, it has been very positive. We understand and
appreciate those sensitivities. So we will try to let others speak for themselves.
QUESTION: Torie, aside from any specific plans that have or have not been made
yet, wouldn't the U.S. military almost have to be involved in humanitarian airdrops
to the Afghans?
CLARKE: Well, I don't think we should be talking about specifics at all. What
we're doing right now is organizing and preparing for a wide range of contingencies.
We are preparing and organizing ourselves to do what the president directs us
to do. Humanitarian aid will be a part of that. But beyond that, we're not going
to give too many details. And again, I think you all understand why.
QUESTION: Could you clarify? Did you say three-five-oh aircraft, or three-one-five?
CLARKE: To clarify again, I said "very approximately" --
QUESTION: Right --
CLARKE: -- three-five-oh. Approximately 350.
QUESTION: Russia the other day signed an arms cooperation treaty with Iran.
In fact, I think it might have been actually today. Given the U.S. position
and Defense Department sensitivities before about Russian arms cooperation with
Iran and Russia's newfound generosity to the U.S. in opening up its air bases
for U.S. support, do you -- do you have a position about Russian and Iranian
CLARKE: You know, I have not heard too much about that today, so I'll have to
get back to you on that one.
And if we're okay here, I would love to bring up Mr. Evey to talk about the
Okay. One question, and then we'll turn it over.
QUESTION: There are a number of former Soviet air bases in the northern part
of Afghanistan --
CLARKE: I'm sorry. I missed the first part of your --
QUESTION: There are a number of former Soviet air bases in the northern part
of Afghanistan that are controlled by the anti-Taliban forces, including in
Feyzabad and Weygam. And I was wondering -- the last one once housed 1,000 Soviet
troops. Are there any airfields that are being considered -- are these airfields
being considered for use by the allied forces?
CLARKE: We sure wouldn't talk about it from up here.
Okay. Thank you very much, you guys. Mr. Evey?
EVEY: I'm Lee Evey, the program manager for the Pentagon renovation, and I wanted
to take just a few minutes to go over with you some of the activities that we
have under way in the wedges for recovery and ultimately renovation. [ Briefing
QUESTION: Would you spell you name and give us your title?
QUESTION: We should probably get it before --
EVEY: (Chuckles.) My last name is spelled Evey, E-V, as in Victor, E-Y.
EVEY: That's correct.
QUESTION: And your first name?
EVEY: My first name's Walker. W-A-L-K-E-R.
QUESTION: And you are?
EVEY: The program manager for Pentagon renovation.
QUESTION: But we'll call you Lee.
EVEY: (Laughs.) If Walker were your first name, you'd go by Lee, too. (Chuckles.)
The first thing I wanted to talk about is just physically some of the things
we're doing out at the site. You start from the farthest perimeter of the site.
Most of you have probably noticed that we've put in additional security screening.
Kind of out here alongside Highway -- out there alongside Highway 27 -- we've
put in some additional screens, with a green barrier. We'll be putting probably
two more layers of screening behind that to provide additional security for
the site, and ultimately those will become lay-down areas. We'll bring construction
equipment and materials and people, sheds, et cetera, to support the reconstruction
activity. That's the first thing.
The second thing is, at this point we've gone through many of the underground
tunnels that honeycomb the areas underneath the building. They kind of parallel
the sides of the building, as well as go underneath Wedge 1 and Wedge 2 itself.
Those are in basically good shape. They all seem to be structurally sound. We've
identified three areas where there's some leaking of water, but those things
are being repaired as I speak, and probably by this afternoon those are all
We have been undergoing for some period of time and we continue a recovery of
personal and government property that was left behind as people exited the area
very quickly. That's a scheduled process. Depending on which wedge you're in,
it's either being done ring by ring or floor by floor because of some slight
difference in the configurations in the areas.
But we schedule organizations to go. We take them in, stand guard in the area
while they go through the materials, et cetera, recover and retrieve what they
can, and we leave with them.
We are doing a laser imagery and digital photography effort to map both the
outside, the exterior of the wedges, as well as the inside. And we think that's
going to make the reconstruction of those areas a little bit faster. We anticipate
we'll save probably about a month in reconstruction effort because we can do
that kind of remotely instead of having to physically measure things.
As you know, we were involved in the removal of equipment that allowed us to
reopen Route 27, so that's open. Traffic's passing through that area freely.
We've begun to establish reoccupancy schedules for the wedges. And I'm proud
to say that the first areas were available for reoccupancy yesterday, Monday,
the 1st of October. And that was about maybe 10 percent of Wedge 1 and a slightly
smaller percentage of Wedge 2 became available for occupancy as of yesterday.
We've got some additional areas coming open, especially in Wedge 2, on the 5th
of October. We have some additional areas coming open in November; some others
areas coming open in January.
And probably the longest areas that we face are the areas we actually had the
very large amount of physical destruction. Right now, our best estimate is going
take us about 18 months to do the physical shell work in that area, that is
the reconstruction of any of the foundations that are required, the columns,
the floors, the outer wall, roof repairs, et cetera.
Probably the biggest ongoing challenge we have right now isn't construction
per se -- we really haven't gotten into that phase very much -- but mostly the
control of mold and mildew, especially in Wedge 1 and portions of Wedge 2, where
literally thousands of gallons of water were dumped into those areas fighting
the fires. There's a very large mold growth and mildew growth in that area.
So we're going to have to do extensive recovery as a result of that.
At this time, about 50 percent of Wedge 1 has electrical power of some kind
turned back on. In some cases, it's just enough to have electrical lights, some
emergency lights on. But at least 50 percent of the Wedge have some type of
We've already ordered the replacement electrical gear for Wedge 1. And we've
also started to develop all of the long-lead equipment item lists that will
require immediate ordering and immediate action to get those long-lead items
underway and ordered.
We've got the domestic water lines reconnected in Wedge 1. We also have the
fire pumps and the fire system, the sprinkler system recharged in Wedge 1, so
that's available to support people moving into those areas. We've got extensive
dehumidification available and ongoing in both wedges. We had to truck in very
large equipment to accomplish it in the very large areas that we have.
We are accomplishing -- I think this is important -- extensive air monitoring
to ensure that the air in both the areas that were damaged, as well as other
areas in the building, are healthy and safe for our working environment.
And we also have, although it's not the alarm that you heard here just a few
minutes ago, we're also starting fire alarm testing; we have that underway in
the wedge, and especially Wedge 1, we'll have that going on for the next few
Now, a lot of interest has been expressed in who it is that will get this business.
And I know in the past we've announced some contract awards and things like
that. I'd like to mention that we are going to hold for small -- and small,
disadvantaged businesses, who might be interested in working on the wedge recovery
effort, who are interested in meeting with the Pentagon renovation prime contractors
to discuss subcontracting opportunities, that we're going to have a meeting
available to them so they can meet both of the prime contractors. It's going
to be in Rosslyn Plaza North on the 24th of October, from 9:00 a.m. to 4:00
p.m. That's at 1777 Kent Street, Rosslyn, Virginia, Conference Room 3. So they'll
have an opportunity to come in. We're going to give an overview of the Pentagon
Renovation Program. We're going to follow that with a presentation from each
one of the prime contractors and how it is they intend to go about doing their
work. They're going to outline subcontracting opportunities that are available.
And the attendees may also schedule appointments with the prime contractors
to look for subcontracting opportunities, business opportunities, within the
resultant wedge construction.
And information on that is available, as well as for many other subjects dealing
with our program, at our Pentagon website, and that is renovation.pentagon.mil.
Some specific contract awards that we've made recently, I think you all are
already aware of the AMEC contract for $520 million. It was a letter contract
that we wrote early on. I'd like to say that AMEC has already awarded subcontracts
to several contractors, among them is a company called Jewel, which is a small,
disadvantaged business; it does cleaning services. It's $100,000. CapCo, another
small, disadvantaged business which does painting and drywall. It's about $400,000.
ACM, which is another small, disadvantaged business that does environmental
remediation. That's going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of $2 million
to $3 million worth of subcontracting. Another firm, called Mufti International,
which is also a small, disadvantaged business, does carpeting, it's approximately
We've also written subcontracts with firms KTLH Engineers, which is a woman-owned
small business. It's about $500,000 worth of subcontract work. A subcontract
for Core Drilling Services, which is also a woman-owned small business. That's
approximately $500,000 for testing services. We've awarded a contract to Stanton
Engineering Services, which is a small business; it's about $3.2 million. That's
for fire protection services. We also, as you know, awarded a contract to RTKL
Architectural -- it's a large business -- for about $20.8 million. But they've
announced subcontracts with Orline Associates, which is a woman-owned small
business, for about $500,000; and Historical Architecture for $500,000.
That's the information that I have that I just wanted to brief you on very quickly.
Questions? Yes, sir?
QUESTION: Is the plan to do -- to restore the damaged part of the building and
then go back to the renovation schedule?
EVEY: Sir, it slightly depends, and we have a number of areas with different
types of varying damage.
In general, there are areas in Wedge 1 which may be recovered independent of
any of the activity we'll do for the rebuild-recovery. And so we'll be working
to do that work as quickly as possible.
For example, if you were to go through Wedge 1 right now, much of what you would
see would be, we're removing drywall and other porous objects and substances
-- surfaces, up to about four to six feet high, depending on the amount of water
damaged it received. We're removing all of that. We're removing a lot of furniture.
You may be familiar with the library that was about to open down in Wedge 1
-- a very large, open area. We've removed all the furniture from that area.
We actually knocked a wall out in the rear of the Pentagon, pushed all that
furniture out through that hole, and we're reconfiguring that area as individual
workstations. It's going to be like a big, open bay area. We're doing that work
as quickly as possible. So we have that kind of work that's on-going and will
continue in large areas of Wedge 1.
There are other portions of both Wedge 1 and Wedge 2 which will first require
the recovery of structure, that's the building of the foundation elements --
the columns, the floor slabs, the outer wall, et cetera, and the replacement
of limestone and such activities. The recovery, or the renovation of those areas
will be dependent upon, first, the recovery activities taking place.
Same thing on the other side, almost a mirror-image of Wedge 1, in Wedge 2 you
have areas that were not so badly damaged that they can't be brought back online
independent of the recovery activity.
QUESTION: As I recall, the $520 million contract was just for Wedge 1, right?
QUESTION: So I guess what I want is the total count and amount. How much will
the whole thing --
EVEY: Right. That was $520 million for the recovery effort plus the rebuild
of Wedge 1. Okay? The recovery being the actual structure rebuilding that we
have to do.
QUESTION: Right. But there's obviously damage in Wedge 2, as well.
EVEY: That's correct. And the damage in Wedge 2 -- the Wedge 2 through 5, contractor,
Hensel Phelps -- one of the first steps that they would undergo as part of their
normal renovation activity is they would do demolition and abatement. And as
they go into the area and remove -- after the people left and after the furniture
was gone, things like that, asbestos, et cetera -- they would strip that entire
wedge down to bare concrete. So in effect, some of that work, perhaps, has already
been done for them as part of the remediation effort underway.
QUESTION: I know this is tough, but I'll just have a little follow-up because,
the question that an ordinary citizen might ask is, how much overall is this
repair going to cost, incorporating renovations and repair from the attack?
And when might it be concluded?
EVEY: Okay. We estimate about $520 million, okay, for the rebuild that has to
be done that covers portions of both Wedge 1 and Wedge 2, plus the reconstruction
of Wedge 1, which is also a recovery activity since it was already built and
was brand new. Okay?
In addition to that, we'll have the dollar amount that's associated with Wedge
2 itself. Okay? My guess right now is that's probably in the neighborhood of
200 (million dollars), $300 million, somewhere in there.
QUESTION: And a time, maybe?
EVEY: The longest lead time that we have under way before we can actually start
doing renovation in that area is where we have to rebuild the structure of the
building. That rebuild effort will take about 18 months before we can start
doing the renovation, what we call core work and tenant fit-out work. That's
primary and secondary utility distribution, furniture, fixtures, equipment,
carpeting, things like that, so you can actually move people in. So on top of
that 18 months, it could take as much as about two years after that. We'll certainly
try to do it faster than that, however.
QUESTION: Thank you.
EVEY: Yes, ma'am.
QUESTION: I assume there would be a lot of irreplaceable historic material in
the Pentagon library. Do you know how extensively it was damaged?
EVEY: Well, we were very lucky in that respect, in that the library we're talking
about was the new library. The old library is located in Wedge 2, but in Wedge
2 outside of the direct impact and fire area. So to my knowledge, the library
was affected very little by that. We lost a lot of brand-new furniture, but
very little in the way of historical materials.
QUESTION: I know, or I guess, that the recovery of people who were lost in the
building is not your primary responsibility, but how has that impacted on the
work that you're doing?
EVEY: That's not an effort that we've been involved in. That was accomplished
by the fire department services.
QUESTION: But is that completed to the point where it's clear for you to do
what you need to do?
EVEY: Essentially, yes, sir. Actually, the crash area itself, the damaged area,
has been under the control of the Military District of Washington. It was handed
off from the FBI to the Military District of Washington. And probably today,
is my understanding, we will gain control of the area. By the time they have
left, all of those activities are presumably completely finished.
QUESTION: Does that mean that essentially all the debris from the destruction
from the attack has been cleared as well?
EVEY: Not all of it. There are some areas where, as part of the fire recovery
activities, they were clearly operating in great haste, and they took things
like desks and chairs and file cabinets and moved them out onto the roof of
the second floor. And if you go through the area that's been fire damaged, you
can see some amount of that type of debris still out on the roof areas. They're
not visible from the roads exterior to the Pentagon and they are on the second-
floor level, so you don't see them very easily. But some of that material will
have to be recovered. In addition, certainly there's a much greater portion
of the building that's physically damaged, and significantly damaged, such that
it will have to be torn down before we can rebuild. We're still involved in
assessment of that right now. So we're not exactly sure what the full extent
of it will be.
QUESTION: The first phase of clearing out that debris is finished.
EVEY: Most of that first phase is finished.
QUESTION: You said that a small portion of Wedge 1 and an even smaller portion
of Wedge 2 were made available to re-open this week?
QUESTION: Is there -- are there any lingering odors? What are the conditions
like in that -- and has there been any hesitancy by anybody to move back in
EVEY: Well, there's a lot of concern. In adjacent areas there's mold growth
and mildew, things like that, okay? And we're undergoing testing, extensive
testing, as I've mentioned several times in the past, of the building to ensure
that it's a healthy work environment.
If you go into those areas, those areas from the second floor to the fifth floor
in -- it's an area we call "C area" -- let me point it out to you.
(Pause - moves to diagram). It's right there.
QUESTION: How many people are working on this project?
EVEY: On my staff? About 300 people, sir. And most of them are pulling 15-18
hour days, and they've done it for 21 days now.
In that C area that I just highlighted for you, on floors 2-5, they were virtually
untouched. Very, very little water damage. In those areas there's essentially
no odor, no problem like that. We've provided temporary personnel walls that
block those areas off so there's no movement of air from adjacent areas that
may have mold and mildew. We've also established alternative routes in and out
of that area different than what you might normally use in the Pentagon to provide
easy access to those areas and effective use by the personnel that work there.