Conference with President Vaclav Havel of Czech Republic
Prague, Czech Republic
November 20, 2002
9:35 A.M. Local Time
PRESIDENT HAVEL: I am very grateful to President Bush for coming to the present
NATO summit one day earlier in order to pay some kind of a working visit to
the Czech Republic. He is the third President of the United States who has come
to visit us in the 13 years since the collapse of the Iron Curtain, and I believe
that this is a telling feature of the quality of our relationship.
In our first conversation that has just ended, we have touched upon several
issues, although, of course, not on all the issues that we would like to discuss.
President Bush explained the position of the United States on Iraq, and I made
it clear that I believe that if this issue is discussed within the NATO deliberations,
as it obviously will be, that I would deem it desirable if the outcome of this
discussion was reflected in some way in the final documents.
We also raised the subject of transformation of the North Atlantic Alliance,
and I believe that there was full agreement between us on this matter.
I have made every effort to extend a truly cordial welcome to President Bush,
and I will extend an equally cordial reception to all of the prominent guests
coming for this summit. Perhaps the heart that is now shining above Prague Castle
may represent a sign of this cordiality with which the Czech Republic, and me,
personally, receive for the distinguished guests coming to the summit meeting.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Mr. President, thank you for your hospitality. I want to thank
you and I want to thank the Czech people for welcoming not only me and our delegation,
but welcoming many of the leaders of the world to a city which is recovering
from devastating floods. The fact that you were able to host us in such fine
fashion speaks to the great character of the Czech people.
And speaking about character, your life has shown that a person who dedicates
himself to freedom can literally change the course of a nation and change the
course of history. And I'm honored to be in your presence again.
The people of the Czech Republic must understand that your President is greatly
admired in America. I'm proud to call you friend.
Before I make a few comments, I do want to say something for domestic consumption,
if that's all right with you. Yesterday, the United States Senate voted overwhelmingly
to better protect America, and voted overwhelmingly to help people find work.
And I want to thank the members of the United States Senate for working with
this administration to do the right thing for the American people.
And, tomorrow, we vote on whether or not to expand NATO. I strongly support
a Europe which is whole, free, and at peace. I welcome the idea of countries
joining NATO whose history has taught them the need to protect freedom at all
costs -- countries whose admission to NATO will invigorate our alliance. The
admission of these countries will not only help us militarily achieve peace,
but the admission of these countries will affect the soul of this most important
We did talk about Iraq. There is universal recognition that Saddam Hussein is
a threat to world peace. There's clear understanding that he must disarm in
the name of peace. We hope he chooses to do so. Tomorrow we'll discuss the issue.
We'll consider what happens if he chooses not to disarm. But one thing is certain;
he'll be disarmed, one way or the other, in the name of peace.
We also talked about NATO capabilities. We recognize it's a hard task to change
the military strategy of this important Alliance. As I explained to the President,
I've tried eliminating some weapon systems in the United States; it is a difficult
job. But it is a necessary job to transform our strategy, our military strategy
to meet the true threats we face. The enemy is not Russia; the enemy is global
terrorists who hate freedom. And together we can work to defeat that enemy,
in the name of freedom.
Mr. President, thank you for having us. This is an historic meeting, an historic
city, an historic country led by an historic figure.
I'll answer some questions.
QUESTION: I have one question for President Bush, and a second question for President
President Bush, you have said some lofty words here. The Czech Republic --
PRESIDENT BUSH: I said some what?
QUESTION: Lofty words. (Laughter.)
PRESIDENT BUSH: No one has ever accused me of being a poet before, but thank
QUESTION: The Czech Republic has been a member of NATO for three years now. For three
years we have been an ally of the United States. Are we, to your mind, a good
ally, and do you count on us in a war with Iraq?
And the question for President Havel, 12 years ago you met in these halls with
the father of the President of the United States, President George Bush, the
elder. Now you are meeting with his son. The situation both in the Czech Republic
and in the United States has changed fairly substantially in those 12 years.
Have the relations within the two countries changed, as well?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, first, the Czech Republic is not only a good ally, it's
a great ally. I can say that with confidence because I have heard the President
speak about this country's commitment to freedom and peace. And the first test
of that friendship came right after September the 11th. The world for our country
changed on September the 11th, and the Czech Republic responded quickly.
Secondly, as to Iraq, it's very important for our nations, as well as all free
nations, to work collectively to see to it that Saddam Hussein disarms. If the
collective will of the world is strong, we can achieve disarmament peacefully.
However, should he choose not to disarm, the United States will lead a coalition
of the willing to disarm him. And at that point in time, all our nations --
we will consult with our friends and all nations will be able to choose whether
or not they want to participate.
PRESIDENT HAVEL: President Bush, the elder, and I met during very dramatic times,
and we have forged a lasting bond of friendship. In fact, I twice visited him
at Kennebunkport after he left office. And I trust that after I leave office,
which will be quite soon, my friendship with George Bush, the younger, will
continue just as well.
As for the relationship between our two states, I believe that they have not
only been gradually improved and have grown stronger, but they have developed
into something that is actually taken for granted now, especially by the younger
generation. And I believe that we do share a great deal of mutual confidence,
QUESTION: Mr. President, you just talked about the collective will of the world, and
I'm wondering -- you said you hope NATO comes along --
PRESIDENT BUSH: You hope what?
QUESTION: You said that you hope NATO comes along with you and Saddam Hussein will disarm
one way or another. And yet, I don't hear any discussion about NATO collectively
taking up arms against Iraq should war be necessary. Why is that? Why settle
for just niche contributions from individual allies? And also, what role do
you see Germany --
PRESIDENT BUSH: What will I see --
QUESTION: What role do you see Germany taking in a war against Iraq?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, first, thank you for the "if we should go to war
against Iraq." War is my last choice, my last option. I hope we can do
It is possible that Saddam Hussein gets the message that we're serious about
disarmament and he should fully disarm -- that's possible. The possibility becomes
more real if he understands that there is a true consequence for his failure
to disarm. And there is a true consequence. There's a serious consequence as
the U.N. resolution addresses.
Now, you asked about two different parts of NATO -- first, by niche I mean that
in order for there to be an effective NATO, some countries can specialize and
provide excellence. And the classic example is the Czech Republic's ability
to deal with biological weapons, the aftermath of a biological weapon attack.
The Czech Republic is one of the very best in the world at a chemical and biological
response capability. And that's what I was referring to when I talk about the
capacity of each country to contribute a part of an effective strategy, a military
strategy, as we head into the 21st century, as a vision which is yet to be implemented,
which is a vision which will be discussed here in Prague.
Of course, the key reason we're here is to talk about NATO expansion and the
benefits of NATO expansion, not only to encourage the spread of freedom in Europe,
but also to be able to deal with the true threats we face in order to defend
our freedoms. And my answer, as far as Iraq goes, is exactly what I've said
previously: If the decision is made to use military force, we will consult with
our friends, and we hope that our friends will join us.
And as to Germany's role, it's a decision Germany will make; just like it's
a decision the Czech Republic will make; just like it's a decision Great Britain
will make. It's a decision that each country must decide as to how, if, and
when they want to participate, and how they choose to participate. The point
is, is that we will have plenty of consultations with our friends.
QUESTION: Again, one question for President Bush; the next question for President Havel.
President Bush, what do you expect will change after the Prague NATO summit
in the Euro-Atlantic relationship? What will be -- the United States expecting
from NATO? And on the other hand, what do you think that the NATO allies will
expect from the United States?
And a question for President Havel. Do you think that a clear commitment to
take an action against Iraq will be expressed at this NATO summit? And will
you support such as that?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, first, I think our NATO partners should expect a continued
positive and active presence in this most importance alliance from the United
States. Our country is committed to NATO. A strong and vibrant NATO is in the
best interest of America, so we'll be active and good partners.
And we expect the same from our NATO friends. But it's very important for us
to recognize that in order for NATO to be relevant as we go into the future,
the military capacities of NATO must be altered to meet the true threats we
face. NATO must transition from an organization that was formed to meet the
threats from a Warsaw Pact to a military organization meant -- structured to
meet the threats from global terrorists.
And the people of the Czech Republic should understand that the threat from
global terrorists is real. These people hate freedom. They are cold-blooded
killers who will take innocent life in the name of a hijacked religion.
Ours is a war not against a religion, not against the Muslim faith. But ours
is a war against individuals who absolutely hate what America stands for, and
hate the freedom of the Czech Republic. And therefore, we must work together
to defend ourselves. And by remaining strong and united and tough, we'll prevail.
PRESIDENT HAVEL: I share the opinion of President Bush, and of all reasonable
people, that it would be better to achieve Iraq's disarmament without using
force. If, however, the need to use force does arise, I believe that NATO should
give an honest and speedy consideration to its engagement as an alliance.
Let us realize that it is not the United States, but the European part of the
alliance, that directly borders on that country, and I believe that this kind
of a test of its attitude, of its capability to reach agreement, and of it's
operative capabilities might be, at the same time, a test of its new identity,
and of its meaning in the world of today.
QUESTION: Mr. President, you've said that you have a zero tolerance attitude toward
Iraqi violations. Secretary Rumsfeld and Kofi Annan say they're looking for
a pattern of behavior over time. Which is right? How do you reconcile these
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, I think there is -- we were talking about whether or not
Saddam Hussein shooting at our airplanes, what that means -- we'll deal with
that. The United States will take appropriate action.
The thing that's important for people to understand is what we want to see is
whether or not he's going to cooperate, whether or not he's heard what the world
has said, whether or not he's heard what the world has said through the U.N.
Security Council resolution.
See, what happens is people tend to focus on the inspectors as if the inspectors
are the end. The final -- the thing that's important, the final point of determination
is whether or not he is disarmed.
So, what we're going to be looking for, and I hope the world joins us, is whether
or not this man is cooperating with the will of the world. See, the world has
recognized -- many members of NATO have recognized that a Saddam Hussein and
Iraq which possesses weapons of mass destruction is dangerous. Imagine a Saddam
Hussein with a nuclear weapon. It's important for the Czech people to understand
this is guy who has poisoned his own people. He's got such hate in his heart
he's willing to use a weapon of mass destruction not only on his neighborhood,
but on the people of his country.
He is a danger. And so, therefore, what we're looking for is to determine whether
or not he is willing to cooperate, whether or not he has got the message that
he must disarm.
The United Nations has said 16 different times, "You must disarm."
And 16 times, he's said, oh, of course, I will -- but never did. And so, the
game's over with; we're through with that. And now he's going to disarm, one
way or the other. In the name of peace, he will be disarmed.