Op with German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder
White House Colonnade
Washington, D. C.
October 9, 2001
3:45 P.M. EDT
THE PRESIDENT: It's been my honor to welcome a great friend of America to the
Oval Office again. Chancellor Schroeder came to talk about our war against terrorist
activities. We had a great discussion.
First, I want to thank the Chancellor for his solidarity with the American people
and his strong statement of support for the American people right after the
evildoers struck on September the 11th. I also want to thank Chancellor Schroeder
and the German people for their outpouring of support for the victims.
And I also want to thank him for being a steadfast friend in a broad coalition
that is determined to rout terrorism out where it may exist, to not only bring
the al Qaeda organization to justice, but to declare a broad campaign against
terrorists and terrorism all across the world.
There is no more steadfast friend in this coalition than Germany, and I'm proud
to have him here. We also talked about the Middle East and the importance that
both of us recognize for that process, to get into Mitchell as quickly as possible.
The German government has been very strong about working with both parties in
the Middle East to get into Mitchell.
I assured him we're doing the same thing. There would be no better stabilizer
for our coalition than for the Mitchell process to begin in the Middle East.
But, Mr. Chancellor, we're so thrilled to have you here. Thank you for coming.
CHANCELLOR SCHROEDER: Thank you very much, indeed, Mr. President. I obviously,
very happily, came here and I'm pleased to be here, because it is important
to us to show that very much in these difficult times, friendship must prevail
and does prevail. And I'm also here to express the deepest solidarity from the
German side, which is not just words being said, but it's a fact.
We very much are in agreement about the fact that this fight against terrorism,
which we are all involved in by now, must be a very comprehensive approach,
indeed. The action that is being taken right now must be added to through political
measures, through diplomatic action, too.
We also find it very important to maintain the strong degree of cohesion that
we see at this point in time within the antiterror alliance that has formed
around the world. We went on to agree that it was crucially important to dry
up the financing for the terrorists, and we also find it very important to highlight
that the action that is presently being taken in Afghanistan is not at all directed
against the people of Afghanistan, it is not at all directed against Islam;
it is far, rather, directed against Osama bin Laden and the very ruthless regime
We have also very strongly emphasized how important we find it that we do provide
relief for the refugees and cope with the refugee problem that will arise. And
I can only yet again emphasize the high degree of respect that I feel, vis-a-vis
the United States of America and the American President, how he has gone about
linking humanitarian aid and assistance with the strike in this fantastic way
he has done.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, sir.
Q Mr. President, how close are we to using U.S. ground troops in Afghanistan?
And, Mr. Chancellor, what extra commitments did you make of German military
assets today to the United States cause?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, first I think the American people are beginning to realize
that this is a unique type of war. The first shot we took in this war against
terrorism was when we started cutting off their money. And I want to thank the
German Chancellor and the German government for cooperating and joining with
us in not only sharing information, but making it clear to al Qaeda and other
terrorist groups, we're going to cut you off financially.
Secondly, as you know, we've started conventional operations. And I believe
Secretary Rumsfeld summed it up pretty well today when he made it clear that
the skies were now free for U.S. planes to fly without being harassed in any
way, and that the missions have been successful.
And as to whether or not we will put troops on the ground, I'm not going to
tell you. I think it's -- you've got to understand, we will not share intelligence,
nor will we talk about military plans that we may or may not have in the future.
CHANCELLOR SCHROEDER: I have, and you might remember me saying that, never excluded
military contributions coming from the federal republic of Germany. We most
obviously addressed this topic today. But as you might easily understand, it
would be entirely unhelpful to spread this type of information. It would only
help the enemy that we're trying to bring down. It is obvious that at the given
point in time, details will be discussed in all friendship, and we'll come to
Q Mr. President, can you tell us what prompted you to write the memo to Congress
about briefing on intelligence matters, why you think such restrictions are
appropriate? And could you also address what threat you think these limited
anthrax exposures pose more generally? Is it linked to terrorism at all?
THE PRESIDENT: Well first, Mr. Chancellor, we had a -- we had some security
briefings take place up on Capitol Hill that were a discussion about classified
information and some of that information was shared with the press.
CHANCELLOR SCHROEDER: Oh, we know that trouble. (Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: Oh, you know that trouble, too. (Laughter.) These are extraordinary
times. Our nation has put our troops at risk. And therefore, I felt it was important
to send a clear signal to Congress that classified information must be held
dear, that there's a responsibility that if you receive a briefing of classified
information, you have a responsibility. And some members did not accept that
responsibility, somebody didn't. So I took it upon myself to notify the leadership
of the Congress that I intend to protect our troops.
And that's why I sent the letter I sent. It's a serious matter, Dave, it's very
serious that people in positions of responsibility understand, that they have
a responsibility to people who are being put in harm's way. I'm having breakfast
tomorrow with members of Congress. I will be glad to bring up this subject.
I understand there may be some heartburn on Capitol Hill. But I suggest if they
want to relieve that heartburn, that they take their positions very seriously,
and that they take any information they've been given by our government very
seriously. Because this is serious business we're talking about.
And the second question about anthrax, that is serious as well. I want to first
tell the American people that an incident obviously came up, in the form of
a sick male who unfortunately passed away. And the local authorities, along
with the CDC, responded very quickly.
There is a system in place to notify our government and governments in the case
of some kind of potential biological incident, or chemical incident. And the
system worked. And now, the system is even working better, because we have,
in essence, gone into the building, cleaned the building out, taken all the
samples as possible, and are following any trail, any possible trails.
Thus far, it looks like it's a very isolated incident. But any type of incident,
any type of information that comes into our government, we take very seriously.
Because we understand we're dealing with evil people. And as you know, I've
assured the American people that life should go on as normal.
But they also should know, the American people should know, that our government
is doing everything we can to make our country as safe as possible.
Q Mr. President, the Pakistani President says he was told that the bombing campaign
would be relatively short. How long do you think it will take? And what do you
say to some of these people in the Islamic world who are protesting the campaign?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes. Well, Steve, I don't know who told the Pakistani President
that. Generally, you know, we don't talk about military plans. And there is
one way to shorten the campaign in Afghanistan, and that's for the -- Osama
bin Laden and his leadership to be turned over so they can be brought to justice.
We will have a sustained effort. But I want to remind you that this is a part
of a larger effort, that our war, the war of freedom-loving people, such as
the Germans and the Americans, is against terrorists as a whole. And this is
one part of a large campaign.
We, the coalition has arrested over 200 people that have been associated with
the al Qaeda organization. All around the world, freedom-loving people are gathering
information, sharing information and bringing people to justice. And what was
the second part of your question?
Q The Islamic protestors. What do you say to those people?
THE PRESIDENT: I say that if they think that the -- first of all, I think the
message of the al Qaeda organization is one of evil and hate. I understand people's
willingness to protest, but they should not protest the decisions our coalition
is making, because it is in the best interest of freedom and humankind.
Q Do you still want him dead or alive
THE PRESIDENT: Ours is a compassionate nation, as is Germany. We're both combining
our resources to help people in need. There are thousands of starving Afghans,
because there is a Taliban government in place that has caused starvation and
deprivation and discrimination. And they are now housing terrorists.
And make no mistake about it: The doctrine that says if you house a terrorist,
you're just as guilty as a terrorist, will stand. We're making that very evident
to the world as we speak.
Q Do you still want Mr. bin Laden dead or alive, sir?
THE PRESIDENT: I want there to be justice. I want there to be justice. And it's
al Qaeda, but it's anybody who feeds al Qaeda, who houses al Qaeda, who encourages
al Qaeda. Any other terrorist organization that is affiliated with al Qaeda
is just as guilty, as far as I'm concerned.
We're very patient people. The American people understand, and I know that the
Chancellor understands, that this is a different kind of war. There's a certain
sense of fascination with previous wars in Kosovo and Desert Storm, where people
could turn on their TV screens and see high-tech weaponry burrowing into bunkers
and massive explosions.
This is a different type of war. There will be a conventional component to the
conflict, but much of what takes place will never make it onto the TV screens.
Much of the efforts that we talked about in the Oval Office will be efforts
that you will never see until people are brought to justice. And, therefore,
there has to be a certain patience. I think the American people are beginning
to understand that.
I will assure you that the people, the terrorists of the world, will understand
that I am determined; and having talked with the Chancellor, that he is determined,
to lend the resources of our government to bring them to justice. If it takes
one day, one month, one year, or one decade, we're patient enough. Because we
understand that the actions we take together are not only important for today,
but will say to future chancellors, or future presidents, here is how we fight
We also understand the actions we take today will make it more likely that our
children's children will be able to grow up in a free world.
The first shot of the new war of the 21st century was fired September the 11th.
The first battle is being waged; but it's only one of a long series of battles.
Q Mr. President, as you noted on Sunday, there's a certain amount of nervous
anxiety in the nation -- fear of new attacks, now that the military campaign
has begun. Will the new Office of Homeland Security do anything concrete to
recommend to average people that they can do to protect themselves?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, Bill, I think the -- you know, the people of America should
go about their business, should go about their daily lives, knowing full well
that our government, at all levels, is doing everything we can to disrupt any
potential action and/or to provide the security necessary for people to travel,
I'm briefed every single morning about what somebody may or may not have heard
and what actions are taking place. And their government is responding as forcefully
and actively as humanly possible.
One of the reasons why this coalition is so important is because we share information.
When Germany hears something about something that may take place here and vice-versa,
we share information. And so, we're on high alert at the governmental level.
But the American people should go about their business. And people ought to
travel. And people ought to feel comfortable going to see the mighty Houston
Astros play. People ought to feel comfortable going about their lives, knowing
that their government is doing everything humanly possible to disrupt any potential
activity that the evil ones may try to inflict upon us.
Q Mr. President, when you meet with the congressional leadership tomorrow, will
you be specific about what they can and cannot relay back up to the Hill? Or,
do you just expect them not to relay anything?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I'm going to talk to the leaders about this. I have talked
to them about it. I mean, when the classified information first seeped into
the public, I called him on the phone and said, this can't stand. We can't have
leaks of classified information. It's not in our nation's interest.
But we're now in extraordinary times. And I was in the -- when those leaks occurred,
by the way, it was right before we committed troops. And I knew full well what
was about to happen. And yet, I see in the media that somebody, or somebodies,
feel that they should be able to talk about classified information. And that's
just wrong. The leadership understands that.
And if there's concerns, we'll work it out. I mean, obviously I understand there
needs to be some briefings. I want Don Rumsfeld to feel comfortable briefing
members of the Armed Services Committee. But I want Congress to hear loud and
clear, it is unacceptable behavior to leak classified information when we have
troops at risk. I'm looking forward to reiterating that message. And we will
work together. We've got a great relationship.
Listen, the four leaders with whom I have breakfast on a weekly basis fully
understand the stakes. They fully understand the decision I made. And they will
have gotten feedback from their members, and we will discuss it. But one thing
is for certain, I have made clear what I expect from Capitol Hill when it comes
to classified information.
CHANCELLOR SCHROEDER: Let me add something. I hope that the German press corps
did hear it. (Laughter.)
Q We didn't hear it, Mr. Chancellor.
Q Mr. President, do you consider Russia's war in Chechnya to be first a war
against terrorists? And has your view on that changed since September 11th?
THE PRESIDENT: I've had very good conversations with Vladimir Putin about the
war on terrorism. I know the Chancellor has as well. I'm, as a matter of fact,
going to be meeting with the President of Russia within two weeks, in Shanghai,
and I'm looking forward to those meetings.
I have made it clear to him that I appreciate his strong statements about America's
efforts and the coalition's efforts to fight terrorism where we find it. I also
made it clear to him that he needs to respect minority rights within his country.
And he listened very carefully, and I think he's appreciative that our message
has been consistent. From the very first conversation I had with President Putin,
I expressed concern about how his government was viewing the minority that exists,
and how they were being treated. So my position has been very consistent.
To the extent that there's al Qaeda organizations in his neighborhood, they
need to be brought to justice as well. And we look forward to sharing information
with him, just like he's sharing information with us. He is -- he was one of
the first -- I will tell you an interesting story.
I was airborne on Air Force One and put our -- on September 11th, and put our
troops to a high-alert status. And one of the first phone calls I got through
my national security office was from Vladimir Putin, announcing that he has
stood his troops down, which is significant. In the old days, if we would have
put our troops on heightened alert, they would have put their troops on more
heightened alert -- (laughter) -- which would have caused our troops to go on
higher alert. And all of a sudden we would have had a conflict, a potential
conflict out of the realm of the incident that caused the troops to go on alert.
So he quickly called and said, we're standing our troops down. It's a new attitude
toward relationship. He understands the Cold War is over, and so do I -- which
provides great opportunity for not only America, but Germany, to work with Mr.
Putin for our nation's interests and his nation's interests. And I think we're
going to find a lot of common ground, one of which will be to fight terrorism.
But as I explained to him, it's going to be hard to have common ground if he
represses the press and/or treats minorities within his own country in a way
that the Western world simply doesn't understand.
Listen, thank you all for coming. Thank you, Chancellor, I appreciate you, sir.